Re: [RRG] LISP next steps

[Robin Whittle <rw@firstpr.com.au>]

Hi David,

I haven't yet listened to Friday's meeting, so perhaps some of my
questions would be answered by that.

My understanding of the RRG's role and planned timeline is based on:

  http://www.irtf.org/charter?gtype=rg&group=rrg
  http://psg.com/lists/rrg/2007/msg00686.html  (2007-12-02)

    The Routing Research Group (RRG) is chartered to explore
    routing and addressing problems that are important to the
    development of the Internet but are not yet mature enough
    for engineering work within the IETF.

    The group will produce a list of prioritized design goals
    and a recommendation for a routing and addressing architecture.

    - floor stays open for new innovative solutions

    - at the same time we encourage efforts on identifying
      fundamental commonalities and differences among proposals,
      and design tradeoffs.

    - starting from March'08 we will drive the group effort towards
      convergence

    - we hope to reach a final recommendation by March '09.

So I understand that the RRG aims to form rough consensus for a
recommendation to the IESG in March 2009 about what approaches
should be recommended to the IESG for engineering development in an
IETF WG.

That could be zero, one or more distinct proposals, perhaps various
sub-units of a complete solution, maybe two conflicting proposals or
something else.  I guess the preferred option is to achieve rough
consensus on a single cohesive proposal or set of modular proposals
which are regarded as both better than the alternatives and
promising enough to use as the basis for development and deployment.


Does your BOF announcement mean something like this?

1 - You think LISP is so practical and desirable that it is "the"
    routing scalability solution to the exclusion of others - and
    perhaps for other purposes.

2 - You think the RRG's timetable is too slow and due to the urgency
    of the situation you want to move LISP into the IETF WG phase
    ASAP.

In the absence of further information, it is easy for me to get
these impressions.

Also, I don't assume that all people who have written IDs regarding
LISP are part of a tight-knit team, so I don't know how much your
BOF proposal reflects the intentions of all these people.  I note
that your announcement includes a list of the LISP IDs you
presumably consider to be relevant, but that this does not include
draft-lear-lisp-nerd.

Your announcement lists a new ID "draft-farinacci-lisp-multicast"
which hasn't been mentioned on the RRG list yet, and which can't be
found at the IETF site or via Google.  Some other new ones which
likewise can't be found like this are:

http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/draft-meyer-lisp-eid-block-00.txt
http://inl.info.ucl.ac.be/system/files/draft-mathy-lisp-dht-00.txt

  - Robin


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