Re: Defintion of Automatic tunnels

[Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>]

Erik Nordmark wrote:
> 
> > This is an interesting discussion of the issues (well, it was, but
> > I deleted it to save bits). But I'm not sure that the WG has to, or
> > should, make a choice. The network is already telling us that both
> > tunnel brokers and 6to4 attract users. I guess the jury is still out
> > on Teredo. But I don't think it's for us to make a philosophical
> > decision here. We will need to decide whether to adopt Teredo, but that
> > should drop out of the scenario analysis as a pragmatic decision.
> 
> Brian,
> 
> You seem to be making a "the market will decide" argument with respect
> to 6to4 and tunnel brokers.
> Is that correct?

Not quite. My point is more that since the (so far revenue-free) market
already seems to want both solutions, I don't see that a decision is needed.
Deployment has moved on since the v6ops charter was written.

> I find it disconcerting that you didn't want to contribute to the understanding
> of the issues (with apply to all tunneling approaches - 6to4, teredo, tunnel
> brokers) and instead deleted the email to "save bits". That doesn't bode well
> for making forward progress.

I think you and Christian have pretty much covered the arguments, and 
I don't have anything new to add. These arguments will be very useful, 
when looking at the scenarios, to decide whether the WG should adopt Teredo 
as a work item. 

    Brian

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Brian E Carpenter 
Distinguished Engineer, Internet Standards & Technology, IBM 

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