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Re: Recent navel gazing - we need to stop wasting cycles on FUD




On Mar 23, 2004, at 2:08 AM, Tim Chown wrote:


Hi Alain,

In what way are you seriously using 6to4 in a large enterprise?

I would estimate that 90%+ of the academic sites use manually configured
tunnels. I don't know of any universities connecting to national
services with 6to4 (there may be some, of course :).


We have a scenario that is somehow equivalent to a very large enterprise
with many branch offices connected together by a private IPv4 only network.
An important characteristic is that there are no communication with the "outside" world,
neither in v4 nor in v6, and this is by design. By outside, I mean outside of the enterprise,
not outside of 6to4 2002::/16 prefix)


I agree, this is different from the original intend of 6to4, and it is based
on the premise that there are no communications to the outside world,
neither in v4 nor in v6, except via IT-controlled proxies.


In this scenario, 6to4 does marvels. Deploying IPv6 in a branch office is a 5 minute job,
that is done by configuring 6to4 on one access router. However, I share the concerns
of many that in other contexts, 6to4 may not be as desirable, especially if external connectivity
is required.


The point I'm trying to make is that one should not confuse, as Pekka did,
the protocol with how one could use it.


- Alain.