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Re: POLL: Consensus for moving forward with Teredo?
Jim,
I fully agree with this view, and moreover, if we allow the auto-discovery of the TB, then even more clearly, the TB will be applicable to unman and other scenarios.
I wonder if Teredo could take advantage of the auto-discovery idea (ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/internet-drafts/draft-palet-v6ops-tun-auto-disc-00.txt), making sure that if required both the 6to4, TB/TS/TSP, ISATAP and the Teredo relays, can coexist automatically in the same box. This could easily simplify the deployment and be an important multiplicative factor.
So, I will suggest a new option "a.bis)": The idea is to make a very quick move on defining a solution for the auto-discovery, and include this in a revised Teredo version (same with ISATAP, TSP, etc.).
Note that I will not like to delay the "go forward" of a) option for a long time, but I'm convinced that if Christian and some other people related to other transition mechanism (TB/TS, may be ISATAP) that need to discover end-point work together.
If we have inputs on the auto-discovery solution, I'm sure that a small team of "hard workers" could make it even before the next IETF. This is a small delay, but I believe the result could be worthy.
Christian, Pekka what do you think ? (I've not read the latest versions of Teredo, so I'm not sure if what I'm saying is actually meaningful, but I understand that the server/relay need to be pre-configured, so can we make it auto-discovered ?, indeed we didn't included Teredo in our I-D, but may be an option for the next revision).
Regards,
Jordi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bound, Jim" <jim.bound@hp.com>
To: <v6ops@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: POLL: Consensus for moving forward with Teredo?
We must work on Teredo, ISATAP, DSTM, and Tunnel Broker. All are being
deployed all will exist. So I vote for (a) but I think Tunnel Broker is
also a choice for UMAN and if asked in the market tell them try both and
see what you like best each have different properties. And I hope there
are more good and innovative transition mechanisms invented the more the
better. We will build many types of IPv6 networks I am sure we do not
have all the tools for transition done and all of the above will be used
and are useful for deployment.
/jim
> -- Friday, April 30, 2004 20:32:26 +0300 Pekka Savola
> <pekkas@netcore.fi> wrote/a ecrit:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > (co-chair hat on)
> >
> > As identified in the scenarios analysis at IETF59 and in
> > draft-savola-v6ops-tunneling-01.txt, there appears to a need which
> > cannot be filled by another mechanism for Teredo at least
> in one major
> > Unmanaged scenario.
> >
> > Is there rough consensus to move forward with Teredo?
> (i.e., to adopt
> > it as WG document in this WG or elsewhere, for Proposed Standard.)
> >
> > The main issue raised has been to call for a more extensive
> analysis
> > for the deployment implications of native, 6to4, and
> Teredo. There is
> > already discussion of this in the Unmanaged Analysis
> document. There
> > seemed to be very little energy or interest in the WG to drive this
> > much further.
> >
> > The options regarrding Teredo at this stage seem to be:
> >
> > a) Go forward with Teredo, hone the deployment implications in the
> > unmanaged analysis in parallel (if and as appropriate),
> >
> > b) Conclude that there is no sufficiently strong need for
> Teredo, and
> > not support its advancement (for PS) at this stage, or
> >
> > c) Decide that we need to analyze the scenarios or deployment more
> > before being able to make a decision.
> >
> > If so, please state where you believe more analysis is needed..
> > and volunteer if possible :)
> >
> > If you have an opinion, please state it within a week,
> i.e., by next
> > Friday, 7th May.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > (co-chair hat off)
> >
>
>
>
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