RE: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt (fwd)

["Bound, Jim" <jim.bound@hp.com>]

Hi Jonne,

Sorry for late response I am traveling yet again.  I agree with what Tim
stated and also the team is ready to go. Before we solidified the
recommendations we wanted the WG to respond as Tim pointed out.  We can
move forward  but that has more risk.  I can present our status and
results at D.C and suggest that I should if you and Pekka agree.  But
let us know ok.

Seems like we should move forward.  I suggest we give WG till next
Tuesday to respond ok?  Then we have no choice but to go to next rev.
Its to bad we just lost at least 2 weeks from no input of stagnation?

Thanks
/jim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Soininen Jonne 
> (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:33 AM
> To: v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt (fwd)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> <Chair hat on>
> I'm wondering why there are no comments to this draft. To 
> kick-off the discussion I'm going to provide some of my own. 
> However, please, comment the draft! We cannot move forward if 
> people don't comment!
> <Chair hat off>
> 
> I'm not going to comment much on the details. As it is the 
> first version, I'm just trying to express my opinion on the 
> general direction of the draft.
> 
> First of all, there is a lot of information in the draft 
> about how the transition/deployment of IPv6 in enterprise 
> environment is to be done.
> However, the conclusions seem not to be clearly derivable 
> from the text.
> I think the goal of the document is to have clear conclusions 
> what is expected from the IETF to be done (nothing - 
> everything is already done, requirements for transition 
> protocols/mechanisms, identifying the protocol needed). 
> 
> I think this is somewhat in the document, but not clearly 
> enough. So, what I would like to see is more clearly the link 
> between the actual text of the document and the conclusions 
> in the section 8. At least to me it is not clear how the 
> conclusions have been reached.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jonne.
> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:29, ext Pekka Savola wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > (co-chair hat on)
> > 
> > There haven't been any reviews on the list.  That's not 
> good.  We need 
> > the reviews to make this go forward.  Otherwise we cannot 
> go forward 
> > with this, and we cannot go forward with the transition 
> mechanisms for 
> > the enterprises.
> > 
> > PLEASE provide feedback ASAP!
> > 
> > (co-chair hat off)
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:24:32 +0300 (EEST)
> > From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
> > To: v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > (co-chair hat on)
> > 
> > This is the initial draft on Enterprise network analysis, 
> and is still 
> > being improved.  We need input from the WG to make it 
> better.  Please 
> > read and comment ASAP, preferably within a week.  We hope 
> to get this 
> > in the shape for WG last call reasonably soon.
> > 
> > Again, please send feedback.  This is very important work!
> > 
> > (hat off)
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
> Internet-Drafts directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working 
> Group of the IETF.
> > > 
> > > 	Title		: IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis
> > > 	Author(s)	: J. Bound, et al.
> > > 	Filename	: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt
> > > 	Pages		: 30
> > > 	Date		: 2004-9-16
> > > 	
> > > This document analyzes the transition to IPv6 in enterprise  
> > > networks.  These networks are characterized as a network 
> that has  
> > > multiple internal links, one or more router connections, 
> to one or  
> > > more Providers, and is managed by a network operations 
> entity.  The  
> > > analysis will focus on a base set of transition units and  
> > > requirements expanded from a previous Enterprise Scenarios  
> > > document, and will depict a set of components and transition  
> > > methods required for the enterprise to transition to IPv6 within  
> > > each scenario and then common to all scenarios.
> > > 
> > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > > 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00
> > > .txt
> > [...]
> > 
> --
> Jonne Soininen
> Nokia
> 
> Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
> E-mail: jonne.soininen@nokia.com
> 
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