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RE: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt (fwd)



Jim,

your proposal sounds like a plan. If the WG decides to remain silent
until next week, please produce another draft without comments. I guess,
the WG will speak up sooner or later! 

Cheers,

Jonne.

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:33, ext Bound, Jim wrote:
> Hi Jonne,
> 
> Sorry for late response I am traveling yet again.  I agree with what Tim
> stated and also the team is ready to go. Before we solidified the
> recommendations we wanted the WG to respond as Tim pointed out.  We can
> move forward  but that has more risk.  I can present our status and
> results at D.C and suggest that I should if you and Pekka agree.  But
> let us know ok.
> 
> Seems like we should move forward.  I suggest we give WG till next
> Tuesday to respond ok?  Then we have no choice but to go to next rev.
> Its to bad we just lost at least 2 weeks from no input of stagnation?
> 
> Thanks
> /jim 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org 
> > [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Soininen Jonne 
> > (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:33 AM
> > To: v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt (fwd)
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > <Chair hat on>
> > I'm wondering why there are no comments to this draft. To 
> > kick-off the discussion I'm going to provide some of my own. 
> > However, please, comment the draft! We cannot move forward if 
> > people don't comment!
> > <Chair hat off>
> > 
> > I'm not going to comment much on the details. As it is the 
> > first version, I'm just trying to express my opinion on the 
> > general direction of the draft.
> > 
> > First of all, there is a lot of information in the draft 
> > about how the transition/deployment of IPv6 in enterprise 
> > environment is to be done.
> > However, the conclusions seem not to be clearly derivable 
> > from the text.
> > I think the goal of the document is to have clear conclusions 
> > what is expected from the IETF to be done (nothing - 
> > everything is already done, requirements for transition 
> > protocols/mechanisms, identifying the protocol needed). 
> > 
> > I think this is somewhat in the document, but not clearly 
> > enough. So, what I would like to see is more clearly the link 
> > between the actual text of the document and the conclusions 
> > in the section 8. At least to me it is not clear how the 
> > conclusions have been reached.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Jonne.
> > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:29, ext Pekka Savola wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > > 
> > > (co-chair hat on)
> > > 
> > > There haven't been any reviews on the list.  That's not 
> > good.  We need 
> > > the reviews to make this go forward.  Otherwise we cannot 
> > go forward 
> > > with this, and we cannot go forward with the transition 
> > mechanisms for 
> > > the enterprises.
> > > 
> > > PLEASE provide feedback ASAP!
> > > 
> > > (co-chair hat off)
> > > 
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:24:32 +0300 (EEST)
> > > From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
> > > To: v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > > Subject: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > (co-chair hat on)
> > > 
> > > This is the initial draft on Enterprise network analysis, 
> > and is still 
> > > being improved.  We need input from the WG to make it 
> > better.  Please 
> > > read and comment ASAP, preferably within a week.  We hope 
> > to get this 
> > > in the shape for WG last call reasonably soon.
> > > 
> > > Again, please send feedback.  This is very important work!
> > > 
> > > (hat off)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
> > Internet-Drafts directories.
> > > > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working 
> > Group of the IETF.
> > > > 
> > > > 	Title		: IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis
> > > > 	Author(s)	: J. Bound, et al.
> > > > 	Filename	: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt
> > > > 	Pages		: 30
> > > > 	Date		: 2004-9-16
> > > > 	
> > > > This document analyzes the transition to IPv6 in enterprise  
> > > > networks.  These networks are characterized as a network 
> > that has  
> > > > multiple internal links, one or more router connections, 
> > to one or  
> > > > more Providers, and is managed by a network operations 
> > entity.  The  
> > > > analysis will focus on a base set of transition units and  
> > > > requirements expanded from a previous Enterprise Scenarios  
> > > > document, and will depict a set of components and transition  
> > > > methods required for the enterprise to transition to IPv6 within  
> > > > each scenario and then common to all scenarios.
> > > > 
> > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > > > 
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00
> > > > .txt
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > --
> > Jonne Soininen
> > Nokia
> > 
> > Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
> > E-mail: jonne.soininen@nokia.com
> > 
> > 
-- 
Jonne Soininen
Nokia

Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
E-mail: jonne.soininen@nokia.com