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Re: POLL: SPs' IPv6 (tunnel) deployment requirements
Agree very good movement. I've forwarded it to other mail exploders where
some operators may provide inputs from other regions.
Regards,
Jordi
> De: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
> Responder a: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> Fecha: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:37:20 -0500
> Para: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
> CC: v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> Asunto: Re: POLL: SPs' IPv6 (tunnel) deployment requirements (fwd)
>
> Pekka - you've aimed some interesting questions in a good direction. Thanks.
>
> Would you be willing to make the full text of any responses available in
> some form? Perhaps forward responses directly to v6ops or post the
> responses on the v6ops web page?
>
> - Ralph
>
> At 01:00 PM 11/2/2004 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:
>> FYI -- let's see if we manage to get any SP operator feedback on tunneling
>> requirements...
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:59:00 +0200 (EET)
>> From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: POLL: SPs' IPv6 (tunnel) deployment requirements
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> (To avoid a lot of spamming on nanog, please send the replies to me
>> off-list and I can summarize, or only to v6ops@ops.ietf.org if you think
>> it deserves wider attention.)
>>
>> IPv6 Operations WG at IETF is considering requirements and scenarios for
>> v6-in-[udp]v4 solutions, especially as would be deployed by ISPs.
>>
>> Unfortunately, there has been rather low amount of feedback from the
>> operators, and we'll need more to find solutions that are actually close
>> to what the operators want.. so, I'm trying here.. Please respond within a
>> week or so.
>>
>> A couple of questions (no need to answer to all if you don't want to):
>>
>> 1. have you yet made plans how to deploy IPv6 towards
>> (home) customers?
>> a/ If yes, have you planned to use (only) dual-stack?
>> b/ If yes, have you planned to use some form of tunneling?
>> c/ If yes, using both as appropriate?
>>
>> [[ The rest are relevant only with 1.b) or 1.c) ]]
>> 2. are you currently using L2TP or some other infrastructure for
>> IPv4?
>> a/ Is that adaptable to IPv6 (e.g., by adding v6 support to PPP)?
>> b/ If yes, would it be a sufficient solution for your needs. If
>> not, please elaborate?
>>
>> 3. in case L2TP is not done towards v4 customers now, have you
>> planned or would you be interested in deploying v6 tunneling
>> towards customers?
>> a/ for free? (added value, competitional advantage, etc.)
>> b/ for a fee?
>>
>> 4. what would be your requirements for 3)? Please elaborate a bit.
>> For example, are some (which ones?) of the following relevant:
>> - need to be used for own customers only
>> - authentication based on IP addresses or similar
>> - must it be capable to offer service to non-customers or roaming
>> own customers through some registration process?
>> - capability for doing prefix delegation to the customers
>> - must work through a NAT (e.g., non-upgraded CPE)
>> - should be possible to deploy multiple boxes easily
>> - should be capable of v4-in-v6 tunneling also
>>
>> 5. any other comments or questions?
>> - shoot!
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The two existing requirements documents, for two slightly different
>> problem spaces (first for "easy set-up within your access network", the
>> second "registered, more complicated mode for more extensive use"), are
>> the following:
>>
>> http://www.v6ops.euro6ix.net/ietf/draft-suryanarayanan-v6ops-zeroconf-reqs-01
>> .txt
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-v6ops-assisted-tunneling-requi
>> rements-01.txt
>>
>> For a lengthier document describing BB ISP IPv6 deployment options, see:
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asadullah-v6ops-bb-deployment-scena
>> rios-01.txt
>>
>> Feedback on these is also welcome, of course!
>>
>> --
>> Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the
>> Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds."
>> Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
>
>
>
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