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RFC4890 question (was: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn)
- To: "Elwyn Davies" <elwynd@dial.pipex.com>, "Mohacsi Janos" <mohacsi@niif.hu>
- Subject: RFC4890 question (was: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn)
- From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
- Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:04:04 -0700
- Cc: "JiangSheng 66104" <shengjiang@huawei.com>, "Seiichi Kawamura" <kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp>, "Gert Doering" <gert@space.net>, "Fleischman, Eric" <eric.fleischman@boeing.com>, "Re'mi Despre's" <remi.despres@free.fr>, <v6ops@ops.ietf.org>, <guoseu@huawei.com>, "Russert, Steven W" <steven.w.russert@boeing.com>, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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I guess I have to ask again. Can the RFC4890 authors please
comment on the RFC4890, Section A.2 text questions asked in
my previous message (below)?
Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Templin, Fred L
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:44 AM
> To: Mohacsi Janos; Brian E Carpenter
> Cc: JiangSheng 66104; Seiichi Kawamura; Gert Doering; Fleischman,
Eric; Re'mi Despre's;
> v6ops@ops.ietf.org; guoseu@huawei.com; Russert, Steven W
> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for
draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn
>
> > > Do you think the draft needs to do any more than recommending to
> follow
> > > the recommendations in 4890? It seems as if that should be
> sufficient.
> >
> > This should be enough.
>
> Regarding the 4890, there is advice in that document that I
> would like to understand better. In Appendix A.2, it says:
>
> "If a network chooses to generate packets that are no larger than
the
> Guaranteed Minimum MTU (1280 octets) and the site's links to the
> wider Internet have corresponding MTUs, Packet Too Big messages
> should not be expected at the firewall and could be dropped if they
> arrive."
>
> But, that would seem to be in conflict with the text of
> Section 5 of RFC2460, where the reader is informed that
> the network can return PTB messages reporting MTU values
> smaller than 1280 if a protocol translator is in the path.
> The host should then react to these PTBs by inserting a
> fragment header with (MF=0; Offset=0) in subsequent packets.
> With the (RFC4890, Appendix A.2) text however, this behavior
> is suppressed.
>
> Where did the RFC4890 text come from? And, why is it there?
>
> Thanks - Fred
> fred.l.templin@boeing.com