RE: I-D ACTION:draft-hardie-wg-stuckees-00.txt

[john.loughney@nokia.com]

Hi Ted,

I basically agree with what you propose, in principle, but I do
think it would be difficult to get this to work in practice.

Reading your draft made me think about something.  In some WGs I
participate in, the ADs and WG chairs are very active in reading
documents, pushing the authors/editors to get the work done, etc.  In
others, document authors are very active in getting their work
done.  These are signs of a successful WG.  In WGs that are not
so successful, there usually is a lot of confusion about who
should be driving the work.  The chairs wait for the doc 
authors to publish the work, the authors sit and wait for
comments from the wg, and not too much happens.

Active management is better than passive management, but also
having clear divisions of responsibilities is always helpful.

br,
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Ted Hardie [mailto:hardie@qualcomm.com]
> Sent: 14 February, 2003 21:24
> To: wgchairs@ietf.org
> Subject: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hardie-wg-stuckees-00.txt
> 
> 
> Howdy,
>          During December we had a discussion on the list of how
> to retain the openness of the IETF process but have a better
> sense of who had committed to taking on the work of a working
> group.  In that discussion, I proposed having a category 
> "working group member"
> with specific responsibilities.  I was never very happy with the term,
> though, as I was afraid that membership implied rights and
> privileges rather than responsibilities.
>          It struck me the other day that the IETF has a perfectly
> good term for this role, "stuckee" (as in the oft-heard "Who is the
> stuckee on that draft?").  I accordingly have re-worked my
> original proposal with that term and some of the other suggested
> changes.  Below is a URL to the draft; comments welcome.
>          I do plan to give a pointer to CRISP to the draft and
> ask folks if they would be willing to take on the "working group
> stuckee" role.  I'd be interested to know if other folks do the
> same for their working groups.
>                          regards,
>                                  Ted
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> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hardie-wg-stuckees-00.txt
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