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Re: If I converted the Miss Manners talk to an RFC, would it get published? (fwd)



Sounds like a good idea to me.

At 07:40 AM 3/24/2003 +0100, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
if she can do it, we'd be stupid to say no.
thoughts?


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Date: søndag, mars 23, 2003 23:32:02 -0500
From: Radia Perlman - Boston Center for Networking <Radia.Perlman@sun.com>
To: Harald@alvestrand.no
Cc: dee3@torque.pothole.com, radia.perlman@sun.com
Subject: If I converted the Miss Manners talk to an RFC, would it get published?

It would take some work to preserve the style (warm, humorous,
nonconfrontational, but yet lots of good advice), but I think
I can do it.

But would the IAB/IESG oppose publishing it, in which case I
wouldn't want to spend all that effort.
People keep mentioning that I should give the talk
periodically (which I think is another good idea), or
turn it into a BCP.

Thanks,

Radia

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It would take some work to preserve the style (warm, humorous,
nonconfrontational, but yet lots of good advice), but I think
I can do it.

But would the IAB/IESG oppose publishing it, in which case I
wouldn't want to spend all that effort.
People keep mentioning that I should give the talk
periodically (which I think is another good idea), or
turn it into a BCP.

Thanks,

Radia
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Hi Radia,

Have you thought about coverting this into a personal draft and
eventually getting it published as an Informational RFC (or maybe Best
Current Practice but that's probably too much to hope for).

Donald


Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:01:11 +0000
From: Rob Evans <rhe@nosc.ja.net>
To: john.loughney@nokia.com
Cc: problem-statement@alvestrand.no
Subject: Re: Physical violence (was: RE: ineffective use of meeting time)
Message-ID: <20030323150111.GA29888@nosc.ja.net>
In-Reply-To: <DADF50F5EC506B41A0F375ABEB320636090B00@esebe023.ntc.nokia.com>
References: <DADF50F5EC506B41A0F375ABEB320636090B00@esebe023.ntc.nokia.com>

> At my working group, a first-timer asked me if the IETF is
> always so rude.

For those that missed it, Radia Perlman did an excellent presentation
at the last Minneapolis IETF; "Miss Manners Meets the IETF." [1]
Whilst it doesn't cover the structural problems, there is precious
little excuse for not reading and acting on it.

..

[1] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/02mar/slides/plenary-3/index.html