RE: [iesg-secretary #6318] WG Action: Evolution of SNMP Working Group (eos) to

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

Mark, you want to read the minutes of the last OPS Area Opern Meeting
They are in the mail archive at:
   http://ops.ietf.org/lists/ops-area/ops-area.2003/

I am not sure I understand what SPAM has to do with all this

Thanks,
Bert 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacqueline Hargest [mailto:jhargest@foretec.com]
> Sent: vrijdag 4 april 2003 22:30
> To: mark.haas@clockware.com
> Cc: iesg@ietf.org; iesg-secretary-req-dist@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [iesg-secretary #6318] WG Action: Evolution of 
> SNMP Working
> Group (eos) to
> 
> 
> Your request #6318 was resolved by jhargest:
> 
> IESG: FYI
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >To: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> >From: Mark Haas <mark.haas@clockware.com>
> >Subject: Re: WG Action: Evolution of SNMP Working Group (eos) to
> 
> Bert,
> 
> If this means what I think it means, and I've just joined 
> today to try and 
> solve the SPAM issue, is there no hope for working groups to 
> exist on this 
> topic? I haven't even begun, and the group is closed.
> 
> Help?
> 
> Mark Haas
> 
> 
> 
> At 4/4/03 02:54 PM, you wrote:
> 
> >The Evolution of SNMP Working Group (eos) in the Operations 
> and Management 
> >Area
> >of the IETF has concluded.
> >
> >The IESG contact persons are Randy Bush and  Bert Wijnen.
> >
> >+++
> >
> >The EoS WG has been closed. The WG could not get to consensus
> >  on the set of 5 small work-items and even today, more than
> >  2 years after being chartered, there seems to be no consensus
> >  and/or wide community support to drive to conclusion on any
> >  work item.
> >
> >  Below is some history.
> >
> >  - Chartered in Feb 2001
> >      In Feb 2001, the Evolution Of SNMP (EOS) WG was created to
> >      try and address 5 pretty small SNMP shortcomings.
> >      The Goals and Milestones were set agressively by the ADs
> >      and the WG chairs, but they were thought to be realistic.
> >
> >  - Supposed to be finished by Oct 2001
> >      The WG was supposed to finish their work by October 2001
> >      and we would then try to decide if a re-charter made sense.
> >
> >  - Activity during April-July 2001
> >      Various WG internet-drafts appeared during these months.
> >      But the WG was not able to converge and reach consensus on
> >      the solutions for the SNMP problems that it set out to address.
> >
> >  - In mid 2002 there was some renewed activity... with complete new
> >      individual internet-drafts that the WG considered.
> >
> >  - Before the fall 2002 IETF there was one new proposal on the table
> >                                  Object Oriented Protocol 
> Operations for
> >                                  the Simple Network 
> Management Protocol
> >      For which the current document name is: 
> draft-ietf-eos-oops-00.txt
> >
> >  - At the fall 2002 IETF, the WG was warned that consensus 
> and progress
> >      (and willingness to work on specs and implementations) 
> was needed
> >      in order for the WG to survive.
> >
> >  - But this new work item has been lingering around for too many
> >      months as well, and there does not seem enough 
> community consensus
> >      and support to put enough effort into it.
> >
> >  - So the WG is being closed and the people working on the
> >      draft-ietf-eos-oops-00.txt can continue to do so as individuals
> >      if they want to pursue it further. The WG mailing list will be
> >      kept around for a while and can be used for further 
> discussions.
> >
> >  Bert Wijnen
> >  co-AD for the IETF Operations and Management Area
>