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Re: Agenda, version zero

Hi Harald,
Speaking as a newcomer, some more education/discussion
of how the IESG interacts with working groups would be welcome.
I note that at the moment you have two sessions on how to deal
with document processing (running, essentially, from 1 to 3:15 on
Tuesday). I'd find it valuable to have some time to discuss:

How do we decide to charter WGs?

How do we keep working groups on track, both in
terms of working to plan and working to milestones?

How do we get cross-working group or cross-area
clue flowing?

To put it another way, at the moment, the agenda focuses
on managing the end of the production process; some focus
on the other parts of the process would be good.
thanks,
Ted



On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

Here's a proposed retreat agenda. Comments most welcome!


Pretty version:

http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/iesg/retreat-2003/agenda.html

Ugly version (especially after justification):

IESG Retreat Agenda

Version April 23, 22:30 CET

April 29-30, 2003 - Wye River, near Washington DC

Dinner available at 2000 on April 28 for those who are arriving then.

Tuesday

+---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+
| 0900-0945 | Welcome, agenda bashing | Harald |
| | IESG overview - the IESG charter | |
+-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 0945-1015 | The Larger Picture - the context of the IETF | Leslie |
| | universe | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1015-1030 | Break | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1030-1115 | Strategy in dealing with others: IEEE, Radius | Thomas? |
| | and 802.11x | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1115-1200 | Strategy in dealing with ourselves: The IM story | Ted? |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1200-1300 | Lunch | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| | Document Review: What is the purpose of our | |
| | review? | |
| | Is the way we do it the Best Way? | |
| | What is review for IDs via WG/individual/RFC | |
| 1300-1400 | Editor? | Harald |
| | Possible results: | |
| | - Changes to procedures | |
| | - Efforts to get more people to review on our | |
| | behalf | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1400-1415 | Break | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| | The AD-Nits checklist: Classifying into | |
| | "essential" and "nice to have" (if any) | |
| | Determining that we'll stop anything on the | |
| 1415-1515 | "essential" list. | Bert? |
| | What does using "MUST" in an Informational | |
| | document mean? | |
| | | |
| | Result: Revised checklist | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1515-1530 | Break | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| | Technological support: What can the secretariat | |
| 1530-1630 | do for us? | |
| | Presentation of plans - thoughts on priorities / | |
| | feedback | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1630-1800 | Some time to take a walk, a beer or a | |
| | small-group discussion | |
|-----------+-------------------------------------------------- +---------|
| 1800 | Dinner | |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+



Wednesday

+---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+
| | The Evolution of the IETF | |
| | - What are the essential properties of | |
| | the IETF we need to preserve? | |
| | - What do we want to see changed when | |
| 0900-1000 | "the process" finishes? | Harald, Leslie |
| | - What should we just go ahead and | |
| | change off the bat? | |
| | - What do we need to change in our | |
| | external relations? | |
|-----------+---------------------------------------- +-------------------|
| 1000-1015 | Break | |
|-----------+---------------------------------------- +-------------------|
| | Specific topic: Certificates and LDAP | |
| | Result: General orientation, specific | |
| | advice | |
| 1015-1115 | (we could do this split-group and have | Russ, Ted |
| | another topic such as GMPLS and | |
| | addressing - but the set of interested | |
| | people overlaps!) | |
|-----------+---------------------------------------- +-------------------|
| 1130-1230 | Lunch | |
|-----------+---------------------------------------- +-------------------|
| 1230-1500 | Telechat | note 1 hour delay |
|-----------+---------------------------------------- +-------------------|
| | Wrapup session | |
| | - What, at a strategy level, does the | |
| | IESG need to do? | |
| 1500-1730 | - What specific problems do we need to | |
| | solve "now"? | |
| | - What do we need to do between now | |
| | and Vienna? | |
|-----------+---------------------------------------- +-------------------|
| 1800 | Dinner | |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+