Re: RIR bashing, was: Routing table size?

[leo vegoda <leo@ripe.net>]

Hi Iljitsch,

Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> wrote:
> On maandag, okt 13, 2003, at 08:03 Europe/Amsterdam, leo vegoda wrote:
>
> > > Actually it doesn't work like that in IPv4 either. You can get an AS 
> > > number if you multihome, but for your own address block you need to 
> > > show immediate use for a /22 (in the RIPE region).
>
> > That's not quite right. If you just want IPv4 address space for 
> > yourself then you can get whatever you'll use efficiently. If you need 
> > a /29 then that's what you'll get. If you need a /15 then that's what 
> > you'll get. Only if you want to assign address space to your customers 
> > do you have to show usage of a /22 (for you an all your customers combined).
>
> With "your own address block" I mean either a PI block or a PA block, 
> NOT an assignment out of someone else's PA block.
>
> So are you saying that I can get a PI /29 if I want to?

You can if you'll use the /29 efficiently.

> Many people would be ecstatic if they could get PI /24s or /23s as 
> those are reasonably routable and 24 or 23 bits is much easier to 
> qualify for than 22, or even 20 as I gather ARIN requires.

They can get a /24 or a /23 (or more - or less) if they'll use the 
address space efficiently.

It is worth noting that there is currently a Task Force looking at 
possible changes to this policy. You can join the list at:

   <http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/pi-tf>

and review the archives at:

   <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail-archives/pi-tf/>

Best regards,

--
leo vegoda
RIPE NCC
Registration Services Manager