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Re: Continued discussion of RADIUS Crypto-Agility



Hi,

> Well, except that in order to place these things in a common category it
> is necessary to ignore one of the defining characteristics of RADIUS:
> that it is only and intentionally defined as a connectionless protocol.

The impact of connectionless vs. connection is not very significant when 
discussing the protocol's *security*, IMO.

> might like to believe so, RadSec is _not_ RADIUS,

Well, it's _almost_ RADIUS, especially if one takes into account the 
mechanisms in RADIUS to detect duplication, retransmission etc, which already 
contains parts of the merits of TCP.

> & therefore far out of 
> scope of not just the crypto-agility discussions but of this WG.
> RADIUSoDTLS, OTOH, doesn't alter the fundamental nature of RADIUS &
> therefore _is_ in scope.

I have understood that DTLS is considered in scope, while RadSec is out of 
scope (Reminder: I never claimed otherwise). Just keep in mind that DTLS 
itself requires even more characteristics of TCP, so when combining the 
RADIUS mechanisms that come on top of UDP + the transport mechanisms in DTLS, 
the end result is getting very close to TCP already. So the distance between 
in-scope and out-of-scope is a very thin line.

Greetings,

Stefan

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