[RRG] Re: The Map-Encap "third party" problem

["William Herrin" <bill@herrin.us>]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Brian Dickson <briand@ca.afilias.info> wrote:
> William Herrin wrote:
>  >>  The problem is a spam-like asymmetry.
>  >>
>  >>  The problem with spam is, one party pays (the ISP delivering mail, and
>  >>  the end user ultimately) for the benefit of another party (the spammer).
>  > That is a remarkably insightful description of BGP PI as it exists today.
>
>  Actually, I was referring to the ITR/ETR model.

I know but it struck me as such an apt description of BGP PI that I
felt compelled to comment.

>  However, thinking about that, made me realize there is a *huge* issue on
>  the operational aspect of any
>  tunnel-based solution.
>
>  As soon as the packets are tunneled, you lose visibility on what is
>  happening.

To some extent, yes. I discuss this a little at
http://bill.herrin.us/network/trrp-breaks.html

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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