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Re: [narten@us.ibm.com: PI addressing in IPv6 advances in ARIN]



On Apr 13, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Geoff Huston wrote:

SHIM6 has been chartered by the IESG to work on an identified solution mechanism for site multi-homing in IPv6 that does not entail placing further burden on the global routing system.
Does the charter imply that a new protocol is needed ?

What if there were an existing set of protocols that work in IPv4 for non-BGP multihoming that allowed some TE and did not place a "further burden" on the global routing system ? What if these same protocols could be used in IPv6 ?
Careful integration of NAT and DNS across multiple ISP connections 
enables some TE for non-BGP multi-homed sites without
host cooperation.

With host cooperation (both client and server) using SCTP or HIP, even better control of the Internet path
can be achieved including mobility.

NAT, DNS, SCTP, or HIP can work with IPv4 or IPv6.

I don't see a need for a new protocol

thanks,
Dana


The solution path is one that I believe has considerable longer term 
positive implications to the IP architecture in that it is an approach 
that allows a session communication to be established in a 
conventional manner and then create a further association on an 
end-to-end basis that allows, in a relatively secure fashion, the 
address locators to shift within the session without incurring the 
overhead of creating additional application or transport level 
associations, without adding to the cost of the overall network by 
calling for the creation of a distribution system of yet another 
unique token .
SHIM6 will continue its chartered work, of course, and is making good 
progress with the initial specification.
The issues of scaling the routing system, and the associated 
consideration of working with the inter-domain routing system to 
improve its robustness and security also continue to be an impetus for 
work in this space.
Personally, considering the critical consideration of scaling the IPv6 
technology to meet the needs of a truly massively populated network in 
the fullness of time, I feel entirely comfortable in seeing us work on 
this scaling issue using a number of approaches at this point in time. 
Therefore I'm of the personal view that a call to stop working on 
SHIM6 is somewhat ill-advised right now.
kind regards,

   Geoff