Greetings again. I was looking at the mailing lists on the FTP server at ftp.ietf.org in the /ietf-mail-archive directory. Among the many WG mailing lists in that directory, there is also a directory called "iesg-only that has a couple of files. I downloaded them and started to read the first one, and quickly stopped because it looks like it really is supposed to be an internal mailing list. I saw a few of your names, the word "appeal", and so on. This might be a Bad Thing, or I might just be being paranoid without having read more. Let me know either way. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium