Re: Glassey and Marshall's "kicking people off lists" proposal

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>]

John,

I don't want to.....

1) the WG chairs have not yet said that his recent spate of messages is 
objectionable. I want to be very sure they are.

2) when I get that request, I want to kick him off the list for a limited 
time. The way the Marshall document is written, that's more or less a 
precondition for invoking the process.

3) The Marshall document would require blocking him from the IETF list, and 
would allow him to be removed from poised, pkix and all his other stomping 
grounds without further process. I don't want to invoke that without a VERY 
clear statement that "we can do this".

In summary: First kick him off, AND approve the document. Then see what 
happens.

               Harald


--On 27. juni 2003 14:46 -0400 John C Klensin <john@jck.com> wrote:

> Harald,
>
> You have warned Todd in private.  You have warned him in public. He is
> still posting, indeed, in the message I pulled out of the trash and
> looked at, cross posting to Poised and IPR.
>
> Since most of Marshall's "procedure for kicking people out" can be
> implemented without approving documents (i.e., it is within IESG
> discretion as I read things), perhaps it would be interesting to see if
> that mechanism could be used in Todd's case, thereby obtaining "running
> code" before actually casting the proposed procedure in concrete.
>
> Formally, you should consider this note a comment to the IESG on
> Marshall's model and proposal.
>
> regards,
>   john