Mostly a question. Should the IETF be doing anything with HIP? Who is tracking it and following the work? At each IETF, I run into folk (including some I consider clueful) that are working on it or doing something related to it and that think it solves something and/or is pretty neat. I even ran into someone yesterday who says they have implemented it and are planning on deploying it as part of building a large wireless WAN. At the risk of saying something impolite, I recall somene saying a while back that HIP was a solution in search of a problem, and until there is a concrete problem for it to solve, the IETF doesn't need to do anything with it. Thoughts? Thomas