RE: [RRG] Why delaying initial packets matters

[<louise.burness@bt.com>]

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From: owner-rrg@psg.com on behalf of Tony Li
Sent: Fri 08/02/2008 17:48
To: <hannu.flinck@nsn.com>
Cc: rrg@psg.com
Subject: Re: [RRG] Why delaying initial packets matters




On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:06 AM, <hannu.flinck@nsn.com> 
<hannu.flinck@nsn.com> wrote:

> But the key issue is to who gains the benefits and who pays for it. 
> The
> content providers (hosting companies) will not pay for a solution that
> only offers drawbacks to them, but benefits would go to ISP. There 
> is no
> incentive for content houses to deploy such a solution.


The incentive for everyone is to deploy a scalable routing 
architecture that serves us for the long term.  Regardless of the 
proposal that RRG puts forward, it's thermodynamically impossible 
that it will have no cost.  There will be deployment costs, 
forwarding plane changes, and a mapping subsystem to support.

Having a functioning Internet for our great grandchildren is the 
benefit and without that, the hosting companies are simply out of 
business.

Tony


Putting an ISP hat on here, having a network for the great grandchildren is out of scope of any 5 year business plan.

There are other possible solutions to the problems of ISP longevity. For example, they may simply pass on costs and make the network so expensive that its growth becomes limited that way. Or they may decide not to support end to end transparent services, deploy NAT and get a few simple PA address for the public side.  Clearly they prefered NAT to the IPv6 grand designed solution to a threat that could destroy the Internet. Probably they will come up with something even more hideous, but that for them makes sound business sense. 

Louise



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