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Re: [RRG] Consensus? End-user networks need their own portable address space



William Herrin wrote:
Placing your mail server behind a NAT box and changing the NAT IP
during a move does absolutely nothing to update the public and private
RBLs and whitelists.
This case probably deserves more elaboration.  Today, just about every 
email reputation system is based on the IP address of the sender.  There 
are many such systems, including RBLs, PBLs, etc.  Legitimate senders 
that originate large volumes of mail do not like this precisely because 
it takes time to develop a positive reputation.  In some cases these 
guys end up either inheriting or even sharing IP addresses through 
common MTAs where their reputations are tied together.
Within the IETF we've developed DKIM that I hope will spawn reputation 
systems based on domain and not IP addresses.  However, that is very 
much a speculative notion, and certainly far in the future.  One reason 
it's speculative is that it may well be that people want to use both IP 
address AND domain to make their processing decisions.  They can make 
the answer on IP address far earlier in an SMTP transaction than they 
can on domain, and that has its advantages.
The key point for this group is simply this: the IP address *is* an 
identifier, an index key, and many other things that we'll never fully 
know.  It is possible to change, but only gradually over time.  If it 
doesn't have to, all the better.
Eliot

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