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Re: [Fwd: GGF and IETF]

Most of the "interesting" stuff the GGF is doing (that is, likely to break out of the Grid world and into the general networking industry) is in the area of very high speed networking and AAA frameworks for Net-accessible services (rather than the net access that IETF AAA focuses on).

They thus have strong relations to the PKIX corner and the Transport corner of the IETF, and weaker relations to other parts.

As far as I understand GridFTP, it's an FTP that runs multiple (up to 100) parallel TCP streams in order to have less of a reduce-the-window impact when one packet is lost; they want it to be able to fill a dedicated lambda and keep it full, even when having a residual packet loss rate.
Of course, the impact on Net congestion is exactly the same as when reducing the downscaling factor in TCP (I think).

Naming some liaison is the IAB's business.
Among other names, Tony Genovese is highly involved in GGF AAA work, and used to come to the IETF a lot some years back. But if looking for someone to be "IETF to the GGF", I'd think of Brian Carpenter.

Harald

--On onsdag, mars 26, 2003 20:50:25 -0500 Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote:

I'm not sure that "territory defence" is the best of motives to start up
a liaison (I'm not disputing its validity as a motive, just its relative
importance when considering a liaison)

Don't get me wrong. My motivation isn't just territory defense, and
I'm not sure a formal liaison is at all warranted. But I fear that by
not being aware of what they are doing (and vice versa) we will wake
up one day with a fairly big issue to deal with that would have been
much easier to deal with if we had seen it coming earlier.

Two groups working in isolation in areas that touch each other or
partially overlap is a good recipe for producing messes sometime down
the road.

Also, from what I understand of the GGF, they are modeling their
processes very much on the IETF. That is fine and good. At the same
time, they lack experience, history and tradition and hence even with
good intentions and a good model, they are bound to make mistakes.

So, I think it would be good for someone to have a look at what they
are doing, where their work might overlap with ours and try to assess
if there are areas we need to be coordinating a bit on.

Thomas