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Subject: RE: [RRG] Comments on draft-lewis-lisp-interworking
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:32:27 -0700
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Hi again Dino,


|I am saying there are multiple ways to go. You could have a LISP site
|that does NAT even when there are PTRs deployed.
|
|But when the LISP site sources packets, it's one type of
|address, that
|is the source address of the packet that is put on the CE-PE link. So
|when a LISP site talks to another LISP site, that source
|address is an
|RLOC from the ISPs block. When that same LISP site is sending
|to a non-
|LISP site, the ITR can translate it's source address to the same RLOC
|as in the LISP-to-LISP case.


Ok, I'm fine with that. You're effectively shifting to a NAT approach for
transition.  If you do that, do you even need PTRs anymore?

Well you know the knee-jerk reaction to NATs.

|Well, I'll ask you the same thing I ask Yakov, give me an alternative
|that has a lower cost of deployment.

I'm not out to optimize for the lower cost of deployment. That's a price that we pay once. I'm much more concerned with having the right end- goal. A cheap deployment of a lousy end-goal isn't worth it in the first place.

I don't think "deployment" is binary. It is continual, and as the scale increases, costs could be more.

Agree, on the end-goal. But as you might know, I think we have a decent one when all things are considered. We don't have perfection but I don't think we can.

Dino



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