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Re: SMTP port specification
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 03:25:22PM +0100, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500
> Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> wrote:
>
> > I found the "out" group was causing problems, so in .folders I used
> > wl-fldmgr to remove these lines and I commented .elmp/passwd.
>
> Why are you editing ~/.elmo/passwd?
Sorry. "Comment" was the wrong word. I moved/renamed the file.
> > out{
> > %drafts
> > %outbox/out
> > %queue
> > }
> >
> > I get the feeling the "%" under some conditions is telling wl that I'm
> > using an IMAP server, and this information gets stored somewhere even
> > when the out group is remvoved by wl-fldmgr.
>
> Yes, % is for IMAP folders.
That's what I thought. But when I create out group and then on next
line try to create &queue, it produces an error:
[elmo-pop3-exists-exactly folder session elmo-inhibit-number-mapping
elmo-auto-change-plugged elmo-folder-plugged-p nil t elmo-pop3-get-session
elmo-network-close-session file-directory-p elmo-folder-msgdb-path
elmo-folder-exists-p] 3] [elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3
"&queue" "&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/queue" nil nil
nil t nil nil x-ctext "queue" user "localhost" 110 nil nil nil nil t])
luna-call-next-method()
luna-apply-generic([elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3 "&queue" "&"
"/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/queue" nil nil nil t nil nil x-ctext
"queue" user "localhost" 110 nil nil nil nil t] elmo-folder-exists-p
[elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3 "&queue"
"&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/queue" nil nil nil t nil nil
x-ctext "queue" user "localhost" 110 nil nil nil nil t])
elmo-folder-exists-p([elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3 "&queue"
"&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/queue" nil nil nil t nil nil
x-ctext "queue" user "localhost" 110 nil nil nil nil t])
wl-folder-confirm-existence([elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3
"&queue" "&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/queue"
nil nil nil t nil nil x-ctext "queue" user
"localhost" 110 nil nil nil nil t])
wl-summary-read-folder("%inbox" "to add")
wl-fldmgr-add()
call-interactively(wl-fldmgr-add nil nil)
If I try to add %drafts, it does create it, but I get:
[session error elmo-network-close-session signal] 3)
elmo-network-open-session(elmo-pop3-session "POP3" "localhost" 110
"drafts" user nil)
elmo-network-get-session(elmo-pop3-session "POP3" [elmo-pop3-folder
[0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3 "&drafts" "&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts"
[modb-standard [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts"
nil nil x-ctext nil nil nil nil nil] nil nil t nil nil x-ctext "drafts"
user "localhost" 110 nil nil [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...] 0 t] nil)
elmo-pop3-get-session([elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3 "&drafts"
"&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts" [modb-standard [0 0 0 0
0 0 0] "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts" nil nil
x-ctext nil nil nil nil nil] nil nil t nil nil
x-ctext "drafts" user "localhost" 110 nil nil [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 ...] 0 t])
elmo-pop3-list-location([elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3
"&drafts" "&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts" [modb-standard
[0 0 0 0 0 0 0] "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts" nil nil
x-ctext nil nil nil nil nil] nil nil t nil nil x-ctext "drafts" user
"localhost" 110 nil nil [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...] 0 t])
elmo-pop3-list-by-uidl-subr([elmo-pop3-folder [0 0 0 0 0 0 0] pop3
"&drafts" "&" "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts" [modb-standard
[0 0 0 0 0 0 0] "/home/haines/.elmo/pop/localhost/drafts" nil nil
x-ctext nil nil nil nil nil] nil nil t nil nil x-ctext "drafts"
user "localhost" 110 nil nil [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...] 0 t])
#[(folder &optional nohide)
When wl-fldmgr us used to cut the draft folder and out group, I can
check mail on my POP3 server.
> > I'm not sure what these drafts, out, and queue folders are for. I've
> > relied on mutt, which does not use them. Do I really need them? They
> > don't seem to get used. Are they really only usefulyy if one is using an
> > IMAP server?
>
> With the ~/.folders file you tell Wanderlust which folders should
> appear in the Folder buffer.
Sorry I was not clear. I meant to ask was not what ".folders" is for,
but the queue, draft, and out folders. Are they used for a POP3
account? I normally run mutt and have never needed such folders.
I didn't include my configuration because the configuration had been
working. Let me illustrate as follows.
I remove .elmo/passwd file
My .wl file is:
(setq smtp-debug t)
(setq debug-on-error t)
(autoload 'wl-user-agent-compose "wl-draft" nil t)
(if (boundp 'mail-user-agent)
(setq mail-user-agent 'wl-user-agent))
(if (fboundp 'define-mail-user-agent)
(define-mail-user-agent
'wl-user-agent
'wl-user-agent-compose
'wl-draft-send
'wl-draft-kill
'mail-send-hook))
(setq wl-smtp-connection-type 'starttls)
(setq elmo-imap4-default-authenticate-type 'clear)
(setq wl-smtp-posting-server "mail.HistoricalMaterialism.info")
(setq wl-smtp-posting-port "587")
(setq wl-local-domain "HistoricalMaterialism.info")
(setq wl-message-id-domain "HistoricalMaterialism.info")
(setq wl-from "Haines Brown <Haines@histomat.net>")
I empty my .folders file.
I start wl and use wl-fldmgr to create a POP3 client by providing the line:
&"brownh@historicalmaterialism.info"@mail.historicalmaterialism.info
I then provide a petname and so my .folders file now has the line:
&"brownh@historicalmaterialism.info"@mail.historicalmaterialism.info "Historical"
I have to provide a password manually. Having done that I can
check/sync the POP3 server. I create .elmo/passwd. When I close and
restart wl in emacs, it checks my folders automatically without a problem. I can check
both Desktop and my new Historical folder successfully.
Now I go to create a test message. When I go to send the draft, in the mini
buffer I'm told that STARTTLS is being opened, and then an error:
(wrong-type-argument arrayp nil)
...
[smtp-server recipients id err smtp-sasl-user-name smtp-sasl-mechanisms
wl-draft-write-sendlog failed smtp smtp-response-error 535 elmo-remove-passwd
format "SMTP:%s/%s@%s" signal server mechanism user] 6)
In sendlog I get the line:
2012/12/01 11:33:19 proto=smtp stat=failed server=mail.HistoricalMaterialism.info
to=<...> id=<87zk1xenqp.wl%Haines@histomat.net"
This id= worrries me. Shouldn't it look like:
id="brownh@historicalmaterialism.info"@mail.historicalmaterialism.info
Error 535 I gather is an authentication problem. Something's obviously
wrong with my .wl file, but it produces different errors and it has
worked in the past. Does SMTP get the password from .elmo/passwd?
Haines